Drowkaki was finally upgraded to Poteto 5.1 then to Wax Poteto. A much needed upgrade after so many years without change and with all these bugs plaguing us. We had to trash our custom MODS but it seem that wax poteto include some of the stuff we had. Avatar(go in your profile) and picture uploading. It also come with some new features as well. The most important one is to be able to re-touch everything, including SHI-PAINTER pictures , non animated oekaki and uploaded stuff. I'm sorry we didn't do this upgrade sooner. Now the board is pretty much lifeless, but i hope now that approving new accountsl became optional, that some life will return around here on this fantasy-only oekaki board.

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[206] Artist: Starisan | Title: Bacchus | Time: 65 min


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Starisan @ Tuesday, February 15th 2005, 3:55 PM
I adulted it because i was unable to do as much as I wanted to start. I know there are a quite a few errors at this point..the shoulder...other stuff but i promise I will fix them the more I work on it and it will have an element of fantasy. I promise!

krypto @ Monday, February 21st 2005, 4:00 PM
the bg has an interesting concept i should say. the choice of colors blends well with the eerie mood of this pic. the hair also (color and shape). o.o finish soon??? *puppy eyes*


[159] Artist: Starisan | Title: Tree | Time: 39 min


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Starisan @ Thursday, January 27th 2005, 2:58 PM
I adulted this because I really don't like the way it looks right now, I deleted the other picture because I lost my concept and forgot to put in the background early and for some reason when I save, the layers automatically combine so I can't go back behind something. I'm gonna see if I can save this one though...

catboi incubus mishi @ Friday, January 28th 2005, 3:38 PM
I don't understand why it automatically merges the layers when you submit, that's never happened to me before. o __o; This image kind of scares me, just a bit. xD;; Reminds me of Grandmother Willow in Pocahontas.

darkrose @ Friday, January 28th 2005, 8:23 PM
yay, tree spirits. Lovely job texturing here, I love the colors in the bark. It looks like real watercolor. Her face is sort of backlit, which is even more awesome, and it really shows the moonlight. The lighting on this is seriously just perfect... the features kind of stick out a bit because they're so much in contrast in style with the rest of the piece, it might have been good to make them watercolor instead of pencil, but this is still fantastic.

Starisan @ Monday, February 7th 2005, 3:14 PM
ok, I think I'm finished, I wouldn't say it's my best work but it was a fun expiriment..

Tigerhawk @ Friday, May 13th 2005, 12:33 AM
This is so cool. I love the originality of it all. The coloring was done very well ^^ Good job!


[128] Artist: Starisan | Title: unnamed | Time: 138 min


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Starisan @ Tuesday, January 18th 2005, 5:10 PM
no comments yet. I don't know what to say.

Starisan @ Tuesday, January 18th 2005, 5:21 PM
ah what the heck, go ahead and comment. hehe

Verna_Venisa @ Wednesday, January 19th 2005, 2:33 AM
Is this finished? It looks so incomplete...

Harlequin @ Wednesday, January 19th 2005, 6:48 AM
Verna, I think Starisan meant comments are fine to improve on things now, while it's still a work in progress. Since it's FAR easier to fix things in the initial stages. lol

celestial crou @ Wednesday, January 19th 2005, 7:12 AM
This is my favorite of yours! The eyes are very well detailed. You have excelent tear duct things and the ridges over the eyes and ....its so pretty! The nose is also done quite well for a mouse. (KUDOS) THough it seems like the nose should be shifted to *my* left. Just a little. I suggest using the copy button. IT works wonders. the mouth may also have to shift a little so that it corasponds. And that mouth. XD I love it! The skin tones are almost done it looks like. (unless you are going for a more extreme color variation in the shading and highlights) And the bg. Its simple but when this pic is finnished i think it will complement nicely to your figure. I love the use of cool tones. Though with this FREEZING weather my love may change. LOL. Also on the head and back part of the head you did a nice correction. Now all you have to do is clean up those lines and make him/ her PRETTY. What color have you chosen for the eye color? FINNSIH SOON!


NOW FOR A BRIEF COMMENT TO THE OTHER DROWTALES MEMBERS! Starisan is my friend from college and i invited her to the drowtales board 'cause of the friendly atmosphere. PLEASE do not make me regret it. Before the worm we were all trying to have everyone comment more and be helpful. Which means actual critiquing. Not stating the obvious.

Kari Maxwell @ Wednesday, January 19th 2005, 6:21 PM
It looks nice so far. I have to agree about the nose though. It should be shifted a little by the way you have the shadows. It looks reallt nice though.

Starisan @ Wednesday, January 19th 2005, 8:50 PM
Thanks for the comments so far. You're right it's not done yet but I just wanted to try something new. I appreciate all the comments and critiques because I am always looking to improve. Thanks so much Crou for being helpful and for suggesting I join this board. I understand that there are certain expectations and I am truly trying to do my best to follow them especially since I made some mistakes at the beginning. I understand that sometimes my work can be sloppy and it is something that I am trying to improve on. I must say that I am happy to be able to see so many different concepts and styles of art because I love art and if there something that I love as much as doing it, it is looking at other peoples. Thanks so much Crou and I hope to finish this soon. And thanks to everyone else who has left me comments.

celestial crou @ Thursday, January 20th 2005, 6:17 AM
Starisan- hello again *HUGS* your doing GREAT for a beginner. Everyone messes up the first few times. But the amount of comments lacking on pictures...makes me sad. Expecially sence you have commented on everyones. Giving them valuable input. It annoys me that they dont show that same consideration to you. This is what squee ment. This pic DESERVES many comments. Its looking beutiful.

darkrose @ Thursday, January 20th 2005, 8:52 PM
Wow, great start! I love the eyes, and the nose is VERY well done, although it appears to be tilted a little too far, as in the angle isn't quite right. He's looking more towards the camera than that. Other than that, the proportions so far are AMAZING, truly beautiful. His head is just the right shape and size, the eyebrows are more like real eyebrows, thick and slightly differently shaped, his ears are the right place on his head and the angles match on both sides. His neck is just beautiful, keep going! This is going to be totally great!

Kaiera @ Thursday, January 20th 2005, 10:13 PM
ow wow! realistic-ish looking...wonderful. I think my favorite part so far is the nose ^_^ not sure why, but I love realistic-looking noses. Of course the eyes and lips look wonderful too :D I hope you finish it soon!

KHatch @ Thursday, January 20th 2005, 10:37 PM
This will be very nice if you finish it. The skin is well shaded so far, but you need a lot of highlighing still. Unless you're going for a gentle light setting, then well it's pretty good like it is, just a few more shadows here and there.
I'm liking the green eyebrows. Can't wait to see this done!

Starisan @ Saturday, January 22nd 2005, 6:04 PM
I am sorry this is taking soo long to finish, it will be soon!

Starisan @ Sunday, January 23rd 2005, 11:08 PM
I gonna work on it this week, I can't on weekends since my computer doesn't save the changes I make at home.

Chime @ Monday, January 24th 2005, 2:06 PM
Even though its not finished, Im gonna comment.

The anatomy itself is wunner-ful ^^ Especially the eyes - theyre so realistic. I love the shading thats on the neck and shoulder.

But Im always drawn to that background. Perhaps its because the finer details of the Elf havent been added on. Its so....cerulean >3 I have no wordds to describe it.....

PLEASE finish ;_;

~Kitti-chan

Starisan @ Monday, January 24th 2005, 5:00 PM
sigh...getting further, still not done cause the skins looking a lik\ttle dirty and ears and other things unfinished. Needed to add more though, this is so much fun.

Starisan @ Tuesday, January 25th 2005, 2:43 PM
okay, I think I'm done...but if you see anything that needs fixing let me know! Otherwise I'm pretty happy with this experiment and I'm gonna start a new one yeah! This is soo much fun! Thank you everyone who gave me comments and suggestions!

Queen_Godzilla @ Friday, March 4th 2005, 8:17 PM
Hm. The facial structure is pretty well done. The eyes are the only thing slightly off kilter (just one, really, and that's only if you really, really look.)

And now we get to the real issue at hand, the one that is the biggest impedance to the picture: the highlights and shadows.

Everything has highlights and shadows. It's a fundamental lesson in illustration. How they are applied makes or breaks a picture.

In your picture, the most I see is shadows. Her skin, even in faint light, should have a highlight, because if there's enough light to cause shadow there is enough light to cause a highlight. And considering how I can see your shadows, but none of your highlights (save the extra sheen on the elf's eyes and lips) you probably need to work on this.

Let's also discuss the shadow placement. The light seems to be coming from the left. At least, it seems so. Either that or the top left. Placement of a light source is equally important, you know. Having light and shadow just randomly everywhere isn't exactly the way things are done. So... just pick a light source someday. It makes things better, trust me. Takes a while to get used to, but it does look awesome when it's done.

I'd want to address your smudging, but I won't. It's really hard to blend stuff in OekakiBBS.


[78] Artist: Starisan | Title: You Give me the Most Gorgeous Sleep that I ever had... | Time: 155 min


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Starisan @ Tuesday, January 4th 2005, 4:53 PM
Had a song with an image in my head, this isn't done yet...and this isn't exactly the image but hey gotta start somewhere. Using the mouse is definately different and it takes a long time because you have to be so careful

darkrose @ Tuesday, January 4th 2005, 9:55 PM
Interesting... the sloppy lines and colroful shading are reall quite cool. I like it. The hair is nifty, too... I'm not sure, but it's almost like there are different styles of coloring and drawing actually within this piece. It's rather, well, cool... hard to say it otherwise. It's interesting in a good way.

Starisan @ Tuesday, January 4th 2005, 10:13 PM
Thanks for the comment, some of things are going to be added and changed stilll since it's not done yet.

Carbuncle @ Tuesday, January 4th 2005, 10:29 PM
I agree with DarkRose this pic is very awesome! I love sketchyness!! I hope you finnish soon...

Starisan @ Wednesday, January 5th 2005, 3:21 AM
Thank you too for the comments! I always enjoy what people have to say:)

celestial crou @ Wednesday, January 5th 2005, 4:13 AM
YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Starisan drawing! You seem to have kept your drawing style dispite using a mouse. The 'sketchyness' (cant remember what our prof. called it) in the pants shows off all the creases. My favorite part is the hair in this one. I love the different tones and lines used. ok i lied. i love the eye too. Their tied as favorites. The eye is just awsome. You did a fantastic job detailing it dispite its small size.

catboi incubus mishi @ Wednesday, January 5th 2005, 4:33 AM
Now, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this isn't fantasy - I noticed in your comment that you're not finished, I certainly hope you add in a fantasy element. The sloppiness of her back and leg area bother me, though, perhaps you can go back and clean them up. I do love her hair and the detail you put into the way it's up in the barrette. (:

Totenmaske @ Wednesday, January 5th 2005, 6:31 AM
Well I personally like the style I have been seeing in the images you have tried to post (even though I gave you a warning ? I personally see a lot of talent in your work) certainly at the moment there is no fantasy ? but I believe you will work that into the image. To be truthful, and this is going to sound rather odd, but this character reminds me of ?The Woman Wrapped in the Sun? in a few of the images by William Blake. Rather odd to suggest that, especially since the image is not completed yet ? but it has style and well I think oddly? ;3

But anyway I personally like what I see, even though there is a sense of ?sloppiness,? in the colouring and well maybe in the slope of the back (though I don?t think it really is that bad, personally I was expecting you to bring out some wings from the back). Now on the subject of using a mouse, it is hard to get used to at first, there are though quite a few artists on the board and other places that use the mouse exclusively. So don?t think it as a crutch, you just have to work at it and over time you will improve. I like the quick pose dolls you make btw that I see in animation.

There are some issues that you may want to do though ? like clean up some of the rough loose line art and colouring. But so far I like the odd style that this is presenting so far. Keep working on this image! I will comment further once this is completed.

oni shi @ Thursday, January 6th 2005, 6:05 PM
i like the wings, its hard to use a mouse it takes more time but if u are carefull with the line art then its much easyer to do, i know i used a mouse for a ver long time and finally got a tabby a year or two ago

AnimeCanuck @ Thursday, January 6th 2005, 7:10 PM
I like this, especially her cheek. I can feel the emotion coming from this, but for some reason it's not exactly EMINATING from it.

Getting used to drawing with a mouse... did you used to have a tablet? What happened to it?

This is a bittersweet picture... Very nice.

Starisan @ Friday, January 7th 2005, 1:33 PM
UUmmm, thanks for all the comments. No I've never had a tablet, I meant in general because this is my first expirience drawing with the mouse, although I got some practice because my first attempts to post here were accidentially deleted (my computer wouldn't save them...and then i accidentally spammed so I deleted those).

Starisan @ Saturday, January 8th 2005, 4:39 PM
well, first drawing done. Pretty happy, I agree that there isdefinately some sloppyniess I need to work on but overall I think I'm gonna like using the mouse once I get used to it. Thanks everyone (esp. Toten) for their help and I just wanted to apologize again for spamin the board. Cheers to all!



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